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Kris Guerra's avatar

Wait I loveeee this. For me it’s Jen, like what is really going on in her marriage and why did Demi and Jessi team up to confront her? They villainized Jen and I just don’t understand why? To try and discredit anything she had to say about Marciano before it came out?

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

Jen is all feisty now! She’s been doing a lot of interviews too.

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Rebecca Clausen's avatar

I felt so bad for Jen this season. I don’t think she’s this outright lier, I think she prioritizes her husbands and friends feelings before herself. It WAS weird that Jess and Demi flipped on her so quickly instead of trying to put themselves in her shoes.

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Natalie  Wilbers's avatar

Jen is in survival mode and she knows things aren’t right so she has to play both sides. Narcissistic personalities have cognitive dissonance and they show you different realities, which makes you question your own reality and you can’t find a through line in events/words.

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kelsey liebich's avatar

THIS!!!!!!! She is stuck in his cycle of abuse.

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Natalie  Wilbers's avatar

I think that they have seen the screenplay of narcissistic partner and they can’t listen to it again. It’s hard for them to emotionally go back to that place and they want Jen to get to the finish line but she’s not ready!

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Ashlee Claire's avatar

I am shook by Conor being 💧💙💚. I mean it makes total sense. He even changes his look every couple of weeks. I guess I am shook because I am so facinated by him. I also loved how he stuck up for Taylor at that big dinner, and got a little raw and open. Especially in a group where he doesn’t really fit in. I also love how open he was about his trauma on the internet.

This may be a hot take, but Whitney and Connor are my favorite people on the show. Maybe it’s because I have been watching them long before the show. But everything they do captures my attention. Whitney is an amazing and engaging performer who has been in so many scandals. I love every one of her dramatic apology videos. Maybe it’s also because I can never tell if they are acting. Maybe it’s because of how they handle the internet poopooing their marriage. Maybe their marriage is a lavender one, and who cares. It works for them, and I think their connection is genuine.

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

They have such a style to them! They are interesting to watch. They’re kind of campy.

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Brit Patrick 💜💙's avatar

1000% agreed on your whole comment!Connor seems like an interesting and kind person. His vulnerability is inspiring and his heart seems genuine. I am not a fan of the speculation about their marriage; they seem confident and committed to each other, which, what more do you need to know?!

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kelsey liebich's avatar

The betrayal that Connor did to Whitney- no one gets over that. even if they say they do, I don't believe them. lol And I think Whitney is just trying to look good and put together. She gives me the CREEPS! Stepford wives creeps...

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Natalie  Wilbers's avatar

Totally agree. All for a lavender marriage, although… it seems like Whitney gets really restless and she creates drama because she might have some like… pent up energy??

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Brit Patrick 💜💙's avatar

Brett's aura makes sense given that the subreddit recently found his like 15 year history in an MLM! Snakey sales energy. Brett's energy is the kind I usually change paths so I don't have to walk by them 😂

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

Whoa!! Oh yeah that does track then lol

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Anna Kate Cagle's avatar

Obsessed with connor being bluequoise! I totally see it

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

💧💙😂

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La's avatar

I so selfishly wanted to know the #dadtok auras because I wanted to know if Mikayla had an odd aura guy but I am SHOCKED at Connor being bluequoise! But yes, they are a bit boring haha

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kelsey liebich's avatar

So boring. lol

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HJ's avatar

I really liked Demi last season….absolutely cannot stand her now. That is all.

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

I’m gonna blame it on the husband. She feels like she just needs to embrace the purple and move forward.

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Jaymay333's avatar

Yes! Brett calls her “Demetria” when she leads with her purple.

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HJ's avatar

Hmmm. I never considered it came from him but maybe. I just know when she cried for him to save her accusing Chase of “laying hands on her” I was like….wow. Then she spiraled from there with her obsession with Taylor. It was too much.

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

Ohh I forgot about that!

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Malisa West's avatar

So glad you’re doing this! It’s a lot and exhausting at the same time!

Demi and Jessi situation is just very messy! I think Taylor has lots of healing needs to be done still. But yes, since finding out Mikayla is a turquoise I see her stare all the time now lol love Mayci’s story this season.

Also not a fan of Demi’s interaction with Taylor’s mom. Very rude and heartbreaking for Taylor’s mom.

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

Mikayla did NOT hold back this season 😂

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Malisa West's avatar

I love it so much!!

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Molly Freedenberg's avatar

Okay first of all, this post is hilarious. I LOVE how you’re letting your humor and personality really shine on this platform. Dare I guess that your indigo feels safe and not over stimulated, and therefore your purple has some room to play, and shine? Whatever is is, its LOL and a DELIGHT.

Second, it’s wild how Demi is so threatened by Taylor. Is this always how it is with two purple blues?

And finally, as for italy, I saw Vanderpump villa and here’s my take:

Demi absolutely crossed a line flirting with Marciano. Whether she liked him or just liked the attention, she gave him lots of reason to think she was interested.

I can also see Marciano being entitled and smarmy and going a little too far with her.

But was it assault, like she claimed on Nick viall’s podcast? I always default to believing victims, but I saw what she called chase “putting hands on her.” Chase was disrespect but he did not “put hands on” her. I have a feeling there’s a similar distance between truth and reality with Marciano too, and she’s doing this to save face with her husband (and maybe the public).

To be fair, women are taught to fawn and give in, so it could’ve been an icky situation. But it didn’t come out of nowhere, and Demi now has a history of stretching the truth.

I think Demi and Marciano are both at fault here.

As for Jessi, she all but confirms the affair on Nick viall. Though I don’t think it started in Italy - it was later, in l.a., when she was networking with Scheana from vpr and hanging out at tom tom.

I def believe both of them - Demi, and Jessi - were in purple bomb territory. Marciano is just a hot mess entitled garbage man, trying to be the new Jax.

As for dadtok…. lol. The boys could never. Brett gives me the ick. And it’s not just because he met Demi when she was nine. I can’t put a finger on why, but he just seems like he’s controlling and image conscious and brings out the worst in Demi.

Honestly it makes me sad. Being Demi must be a lonely angry place to be. And so much work. At least Taylor gets to be effortlessly herself.

Oh and Layla needs to get a backbone real quick. Though I wonder how much of what we’re seeing is the trauma of being the only black girl in a sea of tiny blondes. I worry for her, and want her to find more supportive and diverse community.

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Mystic Michaela's avatar

Thank you for this! And yes, I do better in smaller little spaces and Substack feels sooo much more comfy for me in this way. I love all the spaces I’ve carved out but I like this space bc it’s a bit of a thinking community and also people are less angry ish here than I’ve seen elsewhere. I don’t even LOOK on TikTok or YouTube anymore and I stay in my lane to just MMSF territory on fb 😂

Anyhow, wow thanks for the podcast after the show updates bc I didn’t listen to any of those. The reality world is DARK, I know that, and the people who make it make some sacrifices that feel soul deep to do so. Ones I feel bad that Demi and Jessi seem to be making.

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Molly Freedenberg's avatar

It’s so true people are less angry and more thoughtful here. I love our safe little bubble.

And agree about soul sacrifices. I think some people can be involved and not make them, or make them work for them - like Paige desorbo or Stassi Schroeder. But for the majority of people, it’s a soul eater for sure. And even for people like Paige and Stassi, it does seem to be a bit of a devil’s bargain.

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Liann Ross's avatar

Yes yes yessss!!!!

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Natalie  Wilbers's avatar

They all lean on “the purpose of momtok” when it suits their narrative and they also love a good “I always have your back” or “you need to own up to your behavior” but it’s all arbitrary!! They need a manager.

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Aimee Linder's avatar

So interesting what you said about Jessi and her husband and how their relationship feels like a foundation of a partnership and how the chemistry seems to ebb and flow. The lady doth protest too much when it comes to their relationship. Like bragging about his d*ck size and how often they have sex like girl who are you trying to fool here? 🤔 normal functional couples don’t feel the need to try and convince everyone that’s everything’s good

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kelsey liebich's avatar

1000%

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Sheridan Steenburgen's avatar

I love Mikayla and how she’s bringing out her voice and talking about her trauma. I also thought it was really brave of Jen to talk about her antenatal depression. That’s so real and so hard to talk about suicidal ideation especially as a mom. I know she’d been given a villain edit in the beginning but I’m glad they showed that vulnerable side to her.

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Jessica  Tiernan's avatar

this was sooo good! lol! It was hard for me to watch Demi this season- I felt like she kept using these buzz words- "Narcissist" "Manipulator", etc. Trying to control people's narration that just felt like a stretch/flop lol. Jen calling Demi out gives me so much joy. Taylor was such a star this season I love her. I want all of their sweat sets lol

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kelsey liebich's avatar

As a Pink- Jen sets me OFF with her husband. I just don't believe a word out of his mouth and I think he is stringing her along and she's got the rose colored glasses on. To me- it feels like she doesn't see him for who HE is...She sees what she wants to see. I thought it was bullshit he quit school and I think he is riding on her coattails to fame...He really gives me narcissist. AND talk therapy does not work for narcissists- that makes them even more manipulative! I think he got her pregnant to keep her trapped, too. They talk A LOT about their marriage on podcats and I just dont think any of it is authentic. I think they did this to try and save their appearance.

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